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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:32 AM
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WHAT Corporations are Selling the Tainted Chicken released by the USDA? Let's Boycott Them!
I've been hearing ALL About the "release" by he USDA, and Govt functionaries, of MILLIONS of Chickens that MAY poison us, but Oddly enough, NO ONE SEEMS TO BE MENTIONING THE NAME OF THE CORPORATIONS that are going to SELL this SHIT to US.

I call upon the Minions of the DU to BAND TOGETHER and INVESTIGATE THIS!

We've gotten the Goods on these bastards before, and WE ARE A FORCE.

I DO NOT want to eat this GARBAGE, and I don't want my TWO YEAR OLD SON to eat this GARBAGE - and since the Govt Doesn't give a shit whether they are POISONING US, or CHILDREN, then the Goddam Corporations BETTER THINK TWICE.

Let's FIND the NAMES of these Businesses that will POISON our children, and countrymen and BOYCOTT THEM, get the WHOLE damn WEB behind this, KOS, Buzzflash, Mediamatters, Common Cause, Alertnet, TPM, Takebackthemedia.com, ALL OF THEM.

Together we can KICK their asses, and Open the EYES of the common folks, not to mention, the MEDIA has NO CHOICE once the WEB tells it like it is - they act like THEY discovered the STORY, but we'll know who did it, US.

We can save a LOT OF LIVES and FORCE this Govt, and those Corrupt Corporations that have no qualms about KILLING US FOR PROFIT, to BEHAVE, Bring these Companies to their KNEES.

It's never been SO Obvious, and SO Necessary. NOW is the Time!

Let's make those bastards PAY through the NOSE for even THINKING of selling us POISON, or setting a Precedent so they can FURTHER treat us Like DISEASED CATTLE.

C'MON! Let's show them that the Boston Tea Party was a JOKE compared to the Wrath of the WEB, and Concerned Patriots, and Citizens!!!

COME Together! WE are a FORCE!! Let the DU investigations BEGIN!!!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:49 AM
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1. the law says: USDA doesn't have to release the names... same shit happens
with e-coli investigations...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:57 AM
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4. Yes
but the media is involved with RECALL information, WHERE is the RECALL info on this crap?

I say that we investigate and contact WAXMAN'S office and GET THOSE DAMN NAMES.

We have a Responsibility To EACH OTHER as Human Beings, I'm not going to just sit around and say, "Gee, guess I won't eat chicken.." - There are MANY people, KIDS that will eat this crap, and it's up to US as Citizens to Hold someone's Feet to the FIRE.

If we don't do it NOW, it's going to get WORSE...

Evil WINS when Good MEN stand BY and DO NOTHING.

I refuse to DO NOTHING, I will not go into the darkness without a FIGHT :)

C'Mon people, let's show them what we GOT.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:52 AM
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2. Don't eat chicken unless it is certified organic
You'll be amazed at how much better it tastes anyhow. Tastes like 'chicken.' Not that rubbery-gray shit sold in the supermarket.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:56 AM
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27. Tell that to kids in school cafeterias, patients in hospitals, etc.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:51 AM
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32. seriously, tell them not to eat chicken for awhile then...
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:57 AM
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3. It's going to end up right back in our pet food too.
They just can't give this stuff up. I don't do chicken but my cats do. I would think a good place to look at is the major brands and who ever supplies the store brands.

I wonder how this stuff will effect people who already are dealing with a kidney or liver disease. It's unfortunate that if they die or get sicker it will be blamed on their disease not the poison.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:01 AM
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5. Yep
they will feed it to us OVER AND OVER as Long as we'll STAND it.. or Sit on it, and NOT put up a FIGHT. You've got that right.

There are 100,000 people on this board. Make yourselves USEFUL for once, instead of Gawking at the Queen, while the Idiot Next to her allows the Corps to POISON, LITERALLY, OUR FOOD.

Who is the Terrorist NOW? If a Terrorist did this, wouldn't EVERYONE be screaming?

What's the Difference? The Difference is, WE CAN FORCE a Corporation to COMPLY with OUR LAW.

The People, and their MONEY. :)

FIGHT THIS! GET UP.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:07 AM
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6. Tyson Foods, Perdue Farms, ConAgra Poultry, GoldKist Inc, Pilgrim's Pride
The 5 top agribusiness chicken producers or what ever they're called. The greediest of the greedy and a good place to start.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:12 AM
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7. and don't forget all the fast food places
they're probably serving it up.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:15 AM
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9. WRONG-- most the fast food chains maintain HIGHER STANDARDS
Edited on Tue May-08-07 06:18 AM by JCMach1
than the government requires. They would never take the tainted meat. They only take the BEST from the insane factory system they created. The rest goes to the supermarkets. The worst often ends up in school lunch programs.


Guess where it will end up? Sold in the cheapest supermarkets to be fed to poor people...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:19 AM
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10. ok, you eat it.
nt
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:24 AM
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13. I would venture a guess, like you said
that it's the Biggies in the Corp world, they can sneak it into the flow with Clean chicken, hide it that way..

I would assume that someone like TYSON would do it, they move a LOT of chicken.

Usually the media will air Batch Numbers and such, where are they NOW?

Anyone ever see the 60 Minutes show (I watched it as a kid, and I'm 54 now), where they showed the Inside of a Chicken Rendering Factory, and how the Chickens would got through a Final TOXIC BATH, a literal GLAZE of muddy water composed of Chicken shit..

the next day, there was something like a 75% DROP in SALES.. almost scuttled the industry.

THAT is what I want to SEE on this POISONED Crap here.

Betcha if Walmart will sell Chinese Poison fish, and get caught with LEAD BIBS, then they'd sell that damn chicken as well.

Any CHEAP LABORERS OUT THERE who work at WALMart?

POST HERE - we'll work it :)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:33 AM
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16. Trust me McDonald's will not end up with the tainted birds
However, there are 100's of other reasons not to eat McNuggets ...

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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:56 AM
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33. bullshit
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:29 PM
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34. They virtually control the supply chain to their own advantage
-Please read "Fast Food Nation" if you haven't already...
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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:35 PM
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35. So?
How does that prove that McD's doesn't sell contaminated chicken? We aren't privy to the info on who is selling contaminated chicken. You need to be more specific about how YOU know McD's wouldn't sell bad chicken. Sorry, but that's the way of the world today. Our corporate icons are screwing us over for money.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:30 AM
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24. They would never find out, and this will be in our food for a long time now
cause if people don't eat the chickens then they will be ground up and fed to something else.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:48 AM
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19. I think Tyson is suppling them.
At least Chicken McNugget and KFC are from Tyson. I'm not sure about the rest.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:50 AM
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20. Tyson also 100% controls the feed that their chickens get
so if Tyson is on the list, ALL Tyson chickens are contaminated.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:05 AM
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22. Not necessarily
"Tyson has 6,729 independent contract chicken growers." Independent contractors can probably feed and raise the chickens as they see fit. I don't see how Tyson could or would want to spend the money to over see all of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Foods
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:13 AM
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23. Eric Schlosser descibes what it means to be one of those
Contractors in "Fast Food Nation" ...

The contractor owns the Chicken House (and the environmental liability)... The company controls virtually everything else from egg to slaughter factory.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:42 AM
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29. That book....
he wrote Fast Food Nation was so powerful-Like Silent Spring to ecology and farming. I haven't cut my FF addiction 100%, but it is next to nothing and I am much more concious WHAT I eat (salads, baked potatoes-whole foods). I recomment it to everyone.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:14 AM
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8. I agree, but it's going to take law change
we can only find out the names if the company announces it, or someone blows the whistle.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:19 AM
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11. I don't agree
I've seen the DU in the old days dig up AMAZING and Obscure facts, fit them all together and create a nice CLEAN Course of Action, then ACT on it as a group..

Out of 100,000 people HERE, I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE Knows SOMEONE out there WHO KNOWS Where the hell these chickens are going :)

It really IS a small world once folks decide to Move in a direction. I've seen Doors open for those who TRY, the Universe will prod you along if you give it some kind of CLUE as to where you want to head :)

We need RESEARCH, like we did in the good Old days, back when we WROTE Bev Harris's Book for her :)

We can do it, we've done it before. Where's DEMOTEX? He'll know who's flying the damn Chickens and where they're headed.

If we can figure out a state, then we can surmise that it's one of the Biggies as mentioned in another post..

There's always a way, and once you create a Group Mind, you can do amazing things.. seen it here before, A FORCE, like I said :)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:35 AM
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17. Wasn't implying we couldn't get the info the old fashioned way
under the transom...

In that sense, we should go for it...

First, piece together what we know... draw-up a list of possible companies and see if they can be nailed.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:23 AM
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12. I'm not eating any dirty bird
no chicken no eggs no wheat gluten products
until the damn food industry can prove without a doubt
that our food is clean and healthy.

So far it's been a great diet.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:27 AM
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14. I'm glad you're safe
but not everyone has that choice. And if you're waiting, I think if we don't SQUAWK, that it might be a LONG Wait.

I'm about ready to sell this house in Hawaii and get me some farm land, and go for it.. Grow or breed what I am going to eat.

IN the meantime we have brothers and sisters and kids out there who are screwed if we don't take some kind of stand in this country. Draw a line in the sand. We certainly KNOW the Govt will NOT protect us.

And the Media is HAPPY to report our DEATHS, aren't they? :)
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:30 AM
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15. Agree. We've gotta make a lot of noise.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:42 AM
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18. Symbolman et al... seems like it is just about EVERY company
Edited on Tue May-08-07 06:46 AM by JCMach1
A better question is what companies haven't done this...


In their latest statement, the FDA and the USDA said that, as of April 26, they had identified sites in six states where contaminated pet food was received and used in feed given to hogs: California, Kansas, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina and Utah... http://health.msn.com/healthnews/articlepage.aspx?cp-do...

The potential threat to human health from contaminated pet food has now widened to include chickens, with U.S. health officials announcing that melamine-tainted pet product made its way into poultry feed at 38 Indiana farms... http://www.evitamins.com/news.asp?id=604205

Do they even check in Arkansas??? Elsewhere?


Have they even gotten around to checking the cows yet. They also also feed protein to cows on the feedlots...


I might have to go vegetarian on my trip home this Summer. Oh wait, the USDA is in charge of the that too... Remember the Taco Bell e-coli outbreak.

Our whole food supply is at-risk because of Bush.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:34 PM
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38. It's in Farmed Fish Food To! ChemNutra brokered a deal
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2007-05-0...

Fish meant for humans fed tainted food
http://cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/05/08/fish.food/index.html


One of two Chinese companies already under investigation for having shipped adulterated and mislabeled wheat flour to the U.S. also shipped some of the product to Canada.

In Canada, it was used to make fish meal, Acheson told reporters in a conference call.

That meal was then shipped from Canada to companies in the United States for use in fish farms and to feed fish used to stock bodies of water, he said.


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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:52 AM
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21. Of course the info would be hidden, they don't really want the free market
to work - you know - the one the righties always tout as the best way to "regulate" a market - the one that says no govt is needed for regulation because consumers, with information, will make their own decisions. No, we can't have consumers making wise choices about whether or not they would buy 'safe' chicken vs those chickens that have "been cleared" even though they have eaten the tainted food.

I agree with whoever above said - if you can afford it - buy only free range chickens.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:41 AM
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25. THIS is ALL great Info
I have to head to bed now (Hawaii time, still I stay up all night), but I don't want this to fade away.. I want to research this info, make it COUNT, and make some of these Corps GET ON THE STICK.

If we go after at least SOME of them, then the others might back off, or hide the chickens, feed them to others, yeah, that can happen.

But SOMEONE will KNOW.

Don't let this drop, we need to take the time to help our fellow americans, and in the end, we help ourselves in the battle against these Goddam beancounters who don't care if ANY of us lives or DIES.

We're gonna Need each other, when the Humans Take Over :)

KICK!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 08:45 AM
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26. Symbolman....I think it was ALL of them. If we are importing 95%
Edited on Tue May-08-07 08:45 AM by KoKo01
of gluten from China....then it's in all the chickens...even the "farm raised...free range." Pork, too. That's maybe why they aren't releasing the names. It's so wide spread they have to keep it contained by just releasing a little info at a time, jmo.

We don't even know how long this China gluten that was tainted has been in our food supply. We've probably already eaten it in many products...

But, when we get the list we need to hold these companies accountable. Thanks for the post!
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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:07 AM
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31. oh shit
I just called King Arthur flour company because they are a quality flour manufacturer and I have used their flour for years. I wanted reassurance that their product was not contaminated. They told me 'no problem' - their wheat gluten was imported trhough the Netherlands.

The FDA is pulling all gluten from the Netherlands because they get it from China:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/search/s...


I wonder how many other companies import from either the Netherlands or China. Gold Medal, Pillsbury, Martha White? I need to do some more calling!!!

Let's get on this and demand to learn how widespread this is.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:20 PM
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36. yikes, that's pretty scary... n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:48 PM
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37. Oh Jesus
I suspected it was WAY more widespread than they were letting on.. Some wise DU'rs said, "Watch for it in Human Food.."

WHo would have thought that our PETS would be the "canaries in a coal mine" some day?

My wife had immediately called a Corp to find out if they had a Statement, and THEY DIDN'T CALL BACK.

Very telling, and she knows how the Corporate chain works, who to call.

Maybe we can petition Companies, and make them sign a STATEMENT that THEY DO NOT SELL CONTAMINATED GOODS, and then Hold them to it?

Gotta be some way to Put the Hammerlock on them. Create a SITE?

Poisoning America.com?

BuyorDie.com?

Thanks for all the input, let's Brainstorm, make something happen.. the DU can do more than BAND Together and send tons of flowers, we can END this Practice, at least OUT the most egregious.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:03 AM
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28. P.S. IT'S MORE THAN WHEAT GLUTEN:
Edited on Tue May-08-07 09:10 AM by WinkyDink
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:02 AM
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30. self-delete
Edited on Tue May-08-07 10:07 AM by satya
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 11:32 AM
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39. I am all for this. The FDA is waiting for people to keel over before further action
Edited on Wed May-09-07 11:36 AM by Shallah
http://www.itchmo.com/read/recall-update-wednesday-5_20...

Question: Should the FDA be looking for other unknown chemicals in imported foods?
Answer from FDA:

If we start to see unusual spikes of inexplicable illness, clearly wed ask those questions.

In other words, the FDA will wait until someone gets sick before the FDA tests for other chemicals and foods. (FDA press conference transcript.)

Exploding head alert: FDA reminds food manufacturers of their legal obligation to use safe ingredients. Its so absurd that they have to issue a memo on this topic. We had to read this multiple times to make sure it wasnt written by The Onion. Whats next? Memo to pets: dont eat poisonous food.


The FDA might be willing to wait for people to keel over from contaminated food but I am not! Most people still think this is a pet food problem and that it has been taken care of. I have some relatives without internet access who are shocked when I tell them the articles I have read. Not to mention kids shouldn't be at risk because their parents are unwise enough to trust the FDA's promise of safe levels of melamine, cyanuric acid, and other chemicals in chicken, pork and fish!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:17 PM
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40. Not only are we LAB RATS
for the Pharms, but now the corp FOOD industry has the same attitude..

At least in the Lab they don't Poison the CHEESE when the test is to just see if you can run the MAZE :)

Let's keep this a priority, maybe we can have a group on the DU that Investigates this, might want to ask Skinner and Admin, if we can pool resources and see what we can find out :)
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 07:29 AM
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41. The FDA is warning it's people about CANCER risks from Melamine, pregnant women not allowed near it
but it is fine and dandy for the rest of America to eat melamine, cyanuric acid, amilorine, amiloride and FDA only knows what else tainted fish, chicken & pork.

Source - click through for the links:
http://www.itchmo.com/read/recall-update-thursday-5_200...

* FDA warns their own staff about cancer risk when inspecting melamine-tainted foods. Pregnant staff are not allowed to inspect it. Meanwhile, public is assured melamine-tainted foods are safe.
* FDA censored a fifth suspected substance from the inspection list. Most likely benzoguanamine.
* Melamine caused severe illnesses and deaths in sheep in South African study.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:35 AM
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43. Have we tracked down
WHERE this chicken is coming from, going to, and who's serving up the Yummy Delight yet?

This is all good stuff, wonder if Skinner and Admin would allow - or if there IS yet, a forum on The Poisoning of the People, for investigation.

This ain't no MIHOP, LIHOP stuff (not that there's anything Wrong with that), I mean, we KNOW this is coming down the Pike, if we haven't eaten it already..

Lots of GOOD Info here, MORE! :)

(I've got a two year old 'angel puss' needing to be fed, and I have the joy of wondering WHAT to feed him..)
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:46 AM
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42. Ok, here is something weird
Recently, my husband's and my liver and kidney functions have become high slightly abnormal.

Now six months ago we had a full work up and everything was alright. When we went to get life insurance a month ago, both our levels showed high.

Now my levels are high normal but his are high slightly abnormal. The insurance company would take me but for a higher rate and wont take him. We are going back to our doctors to see what the problem is/was. But I just think it is strange that suddenly we are having these high readings with our kidney and liver functions.

I'm just wondering could it be due to ................

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:41 AM
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44. I vow to eat no animal corpse unless it is a clean animal corpse.
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