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In the discussion thread: Four year old daughter's drawing of father with gun leads to arrest. ... [View all]

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:02 PM

iverglas (38,549 posts)

10. ah, PostMedia News

Ever on guard for the Conservative Party and its extreme right-wing agenda and nasty right-wing supporters! (The Daily Mail and the Toronto Sun, also paragons of right-wing virtue, had made a meal of it too, I see.

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Myself, I'm glad to see that the appropriate authorities are on guard for children's safety.

Since permits to possess handguns are only available in Canada to sports shooters (who may only use their firearms at approved facilities) and collectors, and both are required to meet stringent safe/secure storage regulations -- and police would have readily determined both that this individual had no such permit and that he had a history of involvement in criminal activity and drugs -- there were obvious grounds for concern.

Replica and toy are not the same thing, btw.

http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676744--gun-leading-to-dad-s-arrest-was-a-toy

Three of the children were taken to Family and Children’s Services to be interviewed.

Based on interviews with the children and school staff, regional police believed there was a real gun in the family home and the children were in danger.

Investigators told Insp. Kevin Thaler they were convinced there was a threat based on the “jaw-dropping” accuracy of the description of a semi-automatic gun.

After more interviews, police determined the weapon was likely a toy gun. After Sansone was released, he allowed police to search his home.

A partly transparent, plastic gun was eventually located. Stephanie Squires said the gun shoots small plastic pellets that look like “tiny purple candy gum balls.” However, there were never any pellets in the home. The gun had been left behind by her brother, who used to live with the family.

I guess the school and police should have just ignored the whole thing. And if it had been a real firearm, and the children did have access to it ...

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61 replies	Author	Time	Post
Four year old daughter's drawing of father with gun leads to arrest. ... [View all]	spin	Mar 2012	OP
Oh boy was it an overreaction	sharp_stick	Mar 2012	#1
Alison Scott is full of shit, whatever else may be going on	saras	Mar 2012	#2
no they haven't	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#3
such sneering and baseless sarcasm	iverglas	Mar 2012	#23
Skeet shooting was used to train air gunners and fighter pilots	oneshooter	Mar 2012	#6
tell us what you know about Canada	iverglas	Mar 2012	#17
An if the tables were turned, and it was a real threat that was NOT addressed,	Speck Tater	Mar 2012	#4
One can find out those differences without the need for handcuffs one would think.	ScreamingMeemie	Mar 2012	#5
I feel that an investigation could have been carried out without an arrest ...	spin	Mar 2012	#7
c'mon, we know what this means	iverglas	Mar 2012	#12
My my, what a difference two days makes.	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#25
who's talking about rights?	iverglas	Mar 2012	#27
"who's talking about rights? Not me."	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#30
If the father was as bad as you suggest ...	spin	Mar 2012	#31
if I had suggested any such thing, you wouldn't be misrepresenting what I said	iverglas	Mar 2012	#32
Then why did you bring up his background at all?	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#35
"insinuation"	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#38
I didn't	iverglas	Mar 2012	#40
I don't think that you were portraying the father in a positive light ...	spin	Mar 2012	#39
the elephant in the room	iverglas	Mar 2012	#41
But you do make a good point...	spin	Mar 2012	#43
"possibly more rational response"	iverglas	Mar 2012	#44
In my state, Florida, there is no requriement to register firearms ...	spin	Mar 2012	#45
none of which has anything to do with anything here	iverglas	Mar 2012	#46
Just out of curiosity	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#48
they send the kids out of the room	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#49
you guys love Flashpoint!	iverglas	Mar 2012	#52
coming from a family with cops	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#55
you should dig up Night Heat	iverglas	Mar 2012	#58
that's right	iverglas	Mar 2012	#53
I thought you wondering why	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#57
oh come on	iverglas	Mar 2012	#59
Oh, I see what you are saying	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#60
I'm not really curious at all, but what the hell ....	iverglas	Mar 2012	#51
A snooty condescending answer	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#54
a question without an evidentiary basis	iverglas	Mar 2012	#56
I promise next time I'll use the sarcasm thingy	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#61
Oh irony!	TPaine7	Mar 2012	#50
1% doctrine?	krispos42	Mar 2012	#8
Over-reaction.	BiggJawn	Mar 2012	#9
ah, PostMedia News	iverglas	Mar 2012	#10
were the details inaccurate?	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#11
he was taken into custody	iverglas	Mar 2012	#14
actually it is	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#20
When taken in for questioning, a pat down is performed.	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#22
Let's say it had been a real gun..	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#13
let's stop pretending	iverglas	Mar 2012	#15
"I have no idea why a parent would want their child to see the handgun in either situation."	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#18
Save the lil chillins from seeing the gunz!!	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#19
Have you been consorting with hoyt?	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#21
I have no clue what you are on about	iverglas	Mar 2012	#26
So now even knowledge that a firearm is in the house is bad?!? LOL!! n/t	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#29
yeah, you're a card	iverglas	Mar 2012	#33
"Mommy, where does daddy go with that mysterious case every weekend?" "Shhh, it's a seeecret."	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#34
Remember, Ignorance is Strength!	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#47
Impressive. The genetic fallacy, a straw man argument and excessive deference to authority.	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#16
"overreaction"?! Can't you read?!	PavePusher	Mar 2012	#24
find what you like	iverglas	Mar 2012	#28
Apparently, even if you haven't done anything wrong, you've got something to worry about...	friendly_iconoclast	Mar 2012	#36
Canada has theirs, we have ours	shadowrider	Mar 2012	#37
fortunately	iverglas	Mar 2012	#42

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