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Orrex, that is sarcasm, right? The dogs would be dead if they'd tried. Here is what happened.

I've italicized the Secret Service actions and have emboldened the Capitol Police actions:

Capitol Hill Shooting Update: Miriam Carey, 34, Dental Hygienist suffered from Mental Illness

Miriam Carey, 34, of 114 Woodside Green drove her black Infiniti sedan onto a driveway leading to the White House, over a set of lowered barricades. When Carey couldn't get through a second barrier, she spun the car in the opposite direction, flipping a Secret Service officer over the hood of the car as she sped away, said B.J. Campbell, a tourist from Portland, Ore.

Carey worked as a dental hygienist and according to a local law enforcement official, she suffered from mental illness.

Carey's car at one point had been surrounded by police cars and she managed to escape, careening around a traffic circle and past the north side of the Capitol. Video shot by a TV camerman showed police pointing firearms at her car before she rammed a Secret Service vehicle and continued driving. Lanier said police shot and killed her a block northeast of the historic building.

One Secret Service member and a 23-year veteran of the Capitol Police were injured. Officials said they are in good condition and expected to recover.

Police shot and killed Carey just outside the Hart Senate Office Building, where many senators have their offices. Dine said an officer took the child from the car to a hospital. She is in good condition under protective custody, officials said...

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Stamford-woman-killed-in-Capitol-shooting-4866571.php

to KoKo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023779820

The video was posted on DU and the unfortunate woman was driving very fast and erratically, as described in KoKo's OP. It was a chaotic scene.

On October 3, 2013 in Washington, D.C. Miriam Carey, 34, a dental hygienist from Stamford, Connecticut, attempted to drive through a White House security checkpoint in her black Infiniti G37 coupe, struck a U.S. Secret Service officer, and was chased by the Secret Service to the United States Capitol where she was fatally shot by law enforcement officers. A young child, Carey's daughter, was found unharmed in the car after it was ultimately stopped...

At about 2:12 PM, a vehicle driven by Miriam Carey allegedly struck one of the White House barriers at the intersection of 15th St. NW and Pennsylvania Avenue NW. At 2:13 p.m. she drove into a well-marked, restricted White House checkpoint at 15th and E Streets NW, without authorization and without stopping, refused to stop when two uniformed Secret Service officers told her to. When an off-duty U.S. Secret Service officer placed a metal bike rack in her path to block her exit, struck the bike rack and the off-duty Secret Service officer who was standing behind it with her car, knocking both the bike rack and the officer onto the ground. Secret Service attempted to arrest the suspect but she continued to drive the car evasively, colliding with one officer who fell on the hood of the car and rolled off. Carey then drove 40-80 mph down Pennsylvania Avenue, weaving through traffic and ignoring red lights. Police gave chase east on Pennsylvania Avenue for a dozen blocks. The chase then proceeded south on 1st St. NW/SW between Peace Circle and Garfield traffic circle.

At Garfield Circle, uniformed and plain clothes Secret Service officers attempted to box the car in with at least five marked vehicles and one unmarked cruiser, on United States Capitol grounds, on the sidewalk on the east side of the circle. Four uniformed and two plainclothes officers proceeded to surround the car on foot with guns drawn, shouting orders. Carey eluded the box-in by backing into the Secret Service cruiser behind her and driving away striking a Secret Service officer in the process. The suspect proceeded at high speed north, circling Peace Circle twice and then proceeding east on Constitution Avenue. She got as far as the northeast corner of the Capitol grounds, in the vicinity of the Hart Senate Office Building, where she was forced off the road and stopped near a USCP security hut by the Sewall-Belmont House. During the chase, multiple shots were fired at the car of which five shots hit her from behind including one to the head.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_%282013%29&printable=yes

She, like Gonzalez who jumped the fence, and most likely the latest jumper, had severe mental health problems:

Iraq vet, 42, 'who stormed the White House had more than 800 rounds of ammunition, a machete and two hatchets stashed in his car'

By Lydia Warren, Kieran Corcoran and Wills Robinson - Updated: 22 September 2014



...But relatives have insisted that Gonzalez, from Copperas Cove, Texas, suffers from post traumatic stress disorder after serving three tours in Iraq. He retired after losing part of his foot in an IED blast.

Jerry Murphy, whose mother was married to Gonzalez, said relatives always knew Gonzalez owned a small arsenal of weapons but said they doubted he intended to hurt Obama...

According to agents who arrested him, Gonzalez said that he was desperate to see the President to warn him about 'the atmosphere collapsing...'


His ex-wife said he was very paranoid and began carrying weapons all the time. He was up all night and checking things out. Finally she couldn't take it anymore.

'Omar is a good guy, he's just got some issues that he needs help with. I think this is a cry out for help, what he's done. He really does need help. I just hope he can get it.'

Read more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2765650/Iraq-vet-42-stormed-White-House-800-rounds-ammunition-machete-two-hatchets-stashed-car.html#ixzz3E7CmyW4J

For whatever reason, and it is not the fault of the Secret Service, neither had effective mental health care, or else rejected it. I don't see any rush to kill people by the Secret Service. AFAIK, they drew down on her, but did not shoot, the Police did that.

One may not feel that it was warranted, but these are not the same kind of events. The link shows what the family described about the fence jumper, he was paranoid, sleepless, on the alert, known by his family to be full of fear.

The case of the woman who was killed is awful and a tragedy for her and her family, particularly that young child. If the fence jumper had done all that the woman who was killed did up and down the streets of the Capitol, I think his outcome would have been the same. He didn't get that far. His family says he did not want to kill Obama. Perhaps she did not want to kill Obama, either. But she was very close to killing someone with her vehicle. It's impossible to know what she was thinking but it had to be something terrible.

It appears there is no news story that tells her full story as the jumper's family has done. We don't know what horrors she was thinking about. I know people with paranoid schizophrenia. They can get fixated on what they consider to a danger to themselves or others. They will try hard to eliminate that threat. Perhaps this motivated both of them.

Both of these people were living in hell, not of their own making, but from falling to a deadly disease.

JMHO.

I doubt there would be as much action taken as that fictional scenario details.

GOP like Nordquist had this mapped out in 2012. We didn't let them do it then, but if DU is any sign, we'll do so this year. It's from the states they get their power. Thanksgiving, stick a fork in it, because America will be done:

All we have to do is replace Obama... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.


~ Grover Nordquist

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/13/grover-norquist-speech-cpac.html

Think of ALEC, all the legislation that has hurt us in every state. Already been prepared off the Koch boiler plate:

BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?"

What else do the Koch brothers want?


In 1980, David Koch ran as the Libertarian Party’s vice-presidential candidate in 1980.

Let’s take a look at the 1980 Libertarian Party platform.

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”

“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”

“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”

“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”

“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”

“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”

“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”

“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”

“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”

“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”

“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”

“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”

“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”

“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”

“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”

“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”

“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”

“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”

“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”

“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”

“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”

“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”

“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”

“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”

“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”

“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare. The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country...

Tomorrow it will be Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, repealing the minimum wage. It seems to me that the Koch brothers will not be content until they get everything they believe they are entitled to.

Our great nation can no longer be hijacked by right-wing billionaires like the Koch brothers.

For the sake of our children and our grandchildren, for the sake of our economy, we have got to let democracy prevail.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a7980koch

to kpete:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298

Another explanation here:

How Freedom Became Tyranny

Rightwing libertarians have turned “freedom” into an excuse for greed and exploitation.

George Monbiot - December 19, 2011

Freedom: who could object? Yet this word is now used to justify a thousand forms of exploitation. Throughout the rightwing press and blogosphere, among thinktanks and governments, the word excuses every assault on the lives of the poor, every form of inequality and intrusion to which the 1% subject us. How did libertarianism, once a noble impulse, become synonymous with injustice?

In the name of freedom – freedom from regulation – the banks were permitted to wreck the economy. In the name of freedom, taxes for the super-rich are cut. In the name of freedom, companies lobby to drop the minimum wage and raise working hours. In the same cause, US insurers lobby Congress to thwart effective public healthcare; the government rips up our planning laws; big business trashes the biosphere. This is the freedom of the powerful to exploit the weak, the rich to exploit the poor.

Right-wing libertarianism recognises few legitimate constraints on the power to act, regardless of the impact on the lives of others. In the UK it is forcefully promoted by groups like the TaxPayers’ Alliance, the Adam Smith Institute, the Institute of Economic Affairs and Policy Exchange. Their conception of freedom looks to me like nothing but a justification for greed.

So why have we been been so slow to challenge this concept of liberty? I believe that one of the reasons is as follows. The great political conflict of our age – between neocons and the millionaires and corporations they support on one side and social justice campaigners and environmentalists on the other – has been mischaracterised as a clash between negative and positive freedoms.


More at the link:

http://www.monbiot.com/2011/12/19/how-freedom-became-tyranny/

They'll do it on a national scale it so there'll be no escape. All the better to extract the last drop of blood from Americans, and anyone who does not agree with them abroad.

The only bright spot will be that the White House will get a much needed remodel in 2016 for the GOP president. Who will not be living there, just as Romney wouldn't have. He had better homes in other places and it'd just be sold off to the Koch brothers or some foreign country as an oddity.

I can't get that one to load but found more at this link, including pictures:

Gunman, a recent convert to Islam, dead after Canadian soldier Nathan Cirillo killed at Ottawa war memorial

A long-haired man wielding a double-barreled shotgun brought terror to Canada’s capital Wednesday, paralyzing Parliament with a wild shootout after killing a young soldier — the second time this week the nation lost a military member to a suspected terrorist...

The chaos was believed to have been the work of a lone shooter identified by U.S. law enforcement sources as Michael Joseph Hall, a recent convert to Islam who was using the name Michael Zehaf-Bibeau. A friend of the killer described him as “erratic” and possibly “mentally ill” to a Canadian paper, but cops didn't immediately rule out an accomplice...

Zehaf-Bibeau, 32, reportedly came from a wealthy Montreal home and enjoyed a privileged childhood. His mother is a federal official in Canada’s immigration bureau. She divorced his father, a businessman, in 1999. But in recent years Zehaf-Bibeau racked up several drug arrests and The Globe and Mail newspaper reported he was designated a “high-risk traveler” by the Canadian government and had his passport seized...

The attack came weeks after Harper authorized air strikes against the murderous Islamic State militants who have gobbled up swaths of Iraqi and Syrian territory. And it happened just days after two Canadian armed forces members were hit outside Montreal by a car driven by another recent Muslim convert named Martin Rouleau. One soldier died.

Rouleau, 25, killed by police after a car chase, had changed his name to Ahmed Rouleau. Canadian authorities had confiscated his passport and he was among 90 people being tracked on suspicion of taking part in militant activities abroad or planning to do so. It’s not known if Zehaf-Bibeau was part of that group...


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/shooting-reported-parliament-hill-ottawa-hunt-gunman-article-1.1983054

Can't get the pictures to post but they are good ones of the people, the scene and the area. It has the video I posted earlier on this thread. Both were troubled men. Very sorry for the people killed by them and their families. Not sure how Canadians will react to these events.

The GOP got that covered, denying a vote on a Surgeon General because he didn't meet NRA guidelines.

To be seen as a 'rootin' tootin' straight shooter' one must follow the 2A!



Because Ebola is just another Obama 'false flag' for...

Wait for it...

Just a little bit longer...

Ending the suspense now:



This is a real concern, you know!


Looked them up. A high-maintenance, but well performing breed:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Shepherd_Dog_%28Malinois%29

Guessing the dogs didn't suffer much injury. Thanks for the information.

Jumps over the fence with a pair of white shorts? Hope that wasn't underwear.

Glad to read at the link that Gonzalez is getting mental health treatment. I posted on his issues that his family brought to light:

Iraq vet, 42, 'who stormed the White House had more than 800 rounds of ammunition, a machete and two hatchets stashed in his car'

By Lydia Warren, Kieran Corcoran and Wills Robinson - Updated: 22 September 2014



...But relatives have insisted that Gonzalez, from Copperas Cove, Texas, suffers from post traumatic stress disorder after serving three tours in Iraq. He retired after losing part of his foot in an IED blast.

Jerry Murphy, whose mother was married to Gonzalez, said relatives always knew Gonzalez owned a small arsenal of weapons but said they doubted he intended to hurt Obama...

According to agents who arrested him, Gonzalez said that he was desperate to see the President to warn him about 'the atmosphere collapsing...'


His ex-wife said he was very paranoid and began carrying weapons all the time. He was up all night and checking things out. Finally she couldn't take it anymore.

'Omar is a good guy, he's just got some issues that he needs help with. I think this is a cry out for help, what he's done. He really does need help. I just hope he can get it.'

Read more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2765650/Iraq-vet-42-stormed-White-House-800-rounds-ammunition-machete-two-hatchets-stashed-car.html#ixzz3E7CmyW4J

Most comments on that website were sympathetic.

RF101 (Don Segretti 4.0) is what we get. While Breitbart, FNN, etc. do GOTV for the GOP.

If nothing else, we should vote against the GOP to spite them for all the misery they cause us, and let them lose money trying to fool us. Not voting for our values means voting for theirs.

If you choose not to decide

You still have made a choice


~ Free Will by Rush

But, but, but...



Are you trying to spoil the 2014 October surprise? Including just in case.

WAIT! Blackwater guys who MURDERED Iraqis were convicted by the DOJ?

Are you sure you meant to post that at this website? Is that you, Agent Mike?



Already read the defense of not voting in 2010 and 2014 last night. You know it's surely coming. But it's unwise to reply.

Besides, Kitteh and me are too busy talking on our Obamaphone, Comrade. We know notink!

Can't be said often enough. From one of the links:

Celebrating the glorious success of the GOP Government Shutdown!

Published on October 2, 2014 by The Daily Edge in The Cutting Edge



...For some inexplicable reason, all of the consequences of the GLORIOUS REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN are not being reported 24-7 on Fox News and other media outlets. Some people are even claiming that the GOP-lead shutdown was “no big deal”. So, to make sure you don’t forget on this one year anniversary, here are some of the consequences of the 2013 government shutdown instigated by our great American conservatives:

...Because of the shutdown, the Centers for Disease Control had “reduced capacity to respond to outbreak investigations, processing of laboratory samples, and maintaining emergency operations.” Which is great, because here in America we never had to worry about the spread deadly infectious diseases, right?

– Because of the shutdown, more than 2 million hardworking Americans’ paychecks were affected, food safety operations ceased, and benefits for veterans, women, infants and children were disrupted.

– But most important of all, the GOP shutdown achieved the larger goal Republicans were seeking: It sent the entire US economy into a tailspin–our GDP shrank 2.1% in the first full quarter following the shutdown!


Much more at the link, as they've promised more of the same... Until the entire federal government is nothing more than a tool of the Koch brothers:

http://liberalbias.com/post/4011/celebrating-glorious-success-gop-government-shutdown/

About last year for those who have forgotten, a satire some may enjoy:



http://liberalbias.com/post/2647/ted-cruz-has-a-liberal-bias/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=4011&relatedposts_position=1

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