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Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:15 AM

How to develop film with beer.

It seems to give a special look to the images.

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/how-to-develop-film-with-beer

Can't post the images.

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Reply How to develop film with beer. (Original post)
alfredo Mar 16 OP
TexasProgresive Mar 16 #1
TexasProgresive Mar 16 #2
alfredo Mar 16 #3
TexasProgresive Mar 16 #4
alfredo Mar 16 #5
Virtual Burlesque Mar 17 #15
Adsos Letter Mar 16 #6
alfredo Mar 16 #8
Adsos Letter Mar 17 #10
alfredo Mar 17 #12
ManiacJoe Mar 16 #7
alfredo Mar 16 #9
tclambert Mar 17 #11
alfredo Mar 17 #13
tclambert Mar 17 #14
alfredo Mar 17 #16
hunter Mar 18 #17
jmowreader Mar 19 #18
alfredo Mar 20 #23
jmowreader Mar 20 #24
alfredo Mar 20 #25
Initech Mar 19 #19
alfredo Mar 20 #21
struggle4progress Mar 20 #20
alfredo Mar 20 #22
regnaD kciN Mar 20 #26
alfredo Mar 20 #27

Response to alfredo (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:35 AM

1. Thanks for posting that.

My teenage artsy-fartsy niece is into photography. She was expressing an interest in film photography (image that) and I dug out my film camera outfit. I was always the family photographer and there are some nature shots I am really proud. But I noticed that I was in none of the shots and instead of enjoying our vacations I was recording it. So the cameras were relegated to the closet.

Both bodies and lenses were in great shape. I installed new batteries and bought her some 400 speed film which was all I could find. Her teacher has been helping her and she has gotten over the intimidation of working with film. I sent her the link to "One Year With Film Only." I think she will learn a lot from it.

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:41 AM

2. Here's 3 of the pics

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/v1/fill/w_735,h_735,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/bf3e57_a79cd7234da94657b614e600a09a9e51~mv2_d_1600_1600_s_2.jpg

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:16 AM

3. Thanks. I couldn't get the images to work. I like the vintage look.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:28 AM

4. I have too much time on my hands.

And I like a challenge. I went to his page and viewed each of the images. I'm not sure if that made a difference. The links are really long and I thought it odd that part of them is printed under each image when viewed at DU.

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:33 PM

5. I just tried preview, I didn't try posting.

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:05 PM

15. The image is just a touch grainy for a 125 ASA film.

Since the Smena 8M was made in the Soviet Union, perhaps you should have developed the film in vodka.

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 07:16 PM

6. Just about anything goes with beer.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:13 PM

8. True. Pizza is beer spelled backwards

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Response to alfredo (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:57 PM

10. Piazza and beer down at the local pizza place.

Or just about anywhere else. Good combo, good times!

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:53 PM

12. I am still eating through a feeding tube, so all I can do is dream

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:07 PM

7. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, but

that really does qualify as alcohol abuse.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:26 PM

9. Mackeson's XXX Extra Stout will do for me.

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:09 PM

11. Thought it was gonna be a joke. You develop the film, then have a beer.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:18 PM

13. It's probably the acid in the beer

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Response to alfredo (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:23 PM

14. I don't think you should mix acid with beer, man.

At least give someone else the car keys before you do.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:22 PM

16. It made me puke.

A friend and I were meeting two women for a night out. When one came down the stairs she looked like a skeleton in my acid/beer altered mind. I immediately puked. I'm not one of those discreet barfers, I'm a window rattler. So much for making a good first impression.

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 10:47 AM

17. Hah! A hypoallergenic developer.

As a kid I developed my own film and made my own prints, without gloves of course. Hell, even high schools and college darkrooms used some of the badder darkroom chemicals. I wish I knew then what I know now. (Metol is evil! Poison Ivy evil!)

These days I use ascorbic acid (vitamin C) developers. That's what makes this beer recepie work.



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Response to hunter (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 04:53 AM

18. Phenidone is also hypoallergenic

I cannot stand metol either. I'm not allergic to it (which is a rare thing to say), but the shit will not dissolve if the concentration of sodium sulfite is "too high" - which basically means if there's any at all in the water when you add the metol, you're screwed.

Phenidone, OTOH, is the stuff you want to use: it's more potent of a reducing agent than Metol is and it doesn't cause contact dermatitis. Its only problem is it won't give you any contrast unless you put hydroquinone in the developer. (In the 1970s and 1980s there was a fad of shooting on microfilm...H&W Control film was panchromatic Agfa Copex Rapid, and Technical Pan was panchromatic Eastman microfilm. The only way they could get the contrast of those films down to something reasonable was to use a phenidone developer with just a tiny amount of hydroquinone in it.)

Now...how this "Guinness developer" and also the "coffee developer" some people use works: Serious darkroom geeks know there are three major b&w developing agents: metol, phenidone and hydroquinone. Hydroquinone is a "phenolic" compound - a hydroxyl group bonded to an aromatic hydrocarbon. There are also phenols in Guinness, coffee and wine - so if someone wanted to brew up a batch of Boxwineinol developer, it'd probably work. Now for the big problem with this shit: Phenolic agents give you a ton of contrast and they build heavy grain. Without a low-contrast agent (yup, phenidone) in your Guinness to mitigate the phenol, your pictures are going to come out looking like you shot on lith film, like you see here. It might be interesting to add 0.3 gram of phenidone and 15 grams sodium sulfite to a pint of well-shaken Guinness and do a little stand development.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 12:19 PM

23. Here's a guide to developing film.

It differs from how we did it back in the sixties. They use soap, we didn't.

I never used the bag, I had a totally dark closet. It also helps to have one sacrificial roll of film for practicing using the reel.



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Response to alfredo (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:05 PM

24. I cannot stand to use metal reels

Especially since I shoot 120. 120 film is a lot thinner than 35mm film and it flops over more while you're putting it on reels.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:57 PM

25. I only used 35mm. I didn't take the film out of the cassette.

I left a bit of the leader outside so I didn't have to open the cassette. That made loading the reel much easier.

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:12 PM

19. Beer! Is there anything it can't do?

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Response to Initech (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:56 AM

21. Play the piano

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:09 AM

20. Very useful info!

Out of developer? No problem! Just go buy some Guinness, washing soda, and vitamin C; mix them; and drop in your videocam!

I found I didn't need a stop-bath: the videocam stopped working immediately!

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:57 AM

22. And just in time. :)

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Response to alfredo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:03 PM

26. Film? What's that?

Although I understand a good hefeweizen can be enjoyable while processing your images in Photoshop or Lightroom.


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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:21 PM

27. Film is what forms on top of pudding.

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