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Hillary Clinton Says She’s Ready to Step Off ‘the High Wire of American Politics’

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It’s not the first time she’s said she’s leaving government service after her current job, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton definitively said today she wants out of politics.

During a town hall meeting with State Department employees this morning Clinton said she is ready to step off “the high wire of American politics.” She said she’s paying no attention to the battle for the Republican presidential nomination and hasn’t watched any of the debates.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/hillary-clinton-says-shes-ready-to-step-off-the-high-wire-of-american-politics

She did a great job. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I would have been happy with either her or President Obama in the White House in 2008.

(Edited for a better link. We've known that she will step down for some time. But not quite yet.)

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Reply Hillary Clinton Says She’s Ready to Step Off ‘the High Wire of American Politics’ (Original post)
onehandle Jan 26 OP
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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:34 PM

1. Speaking tours?

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She's not going to run in 2012, and she might be too old in 2016....

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:58 PM

23. She's said before she's not running for anything in the future. nt

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:56 PM

112. She'll get highpaying, no-work jobs sitting on the boards of defense contractors

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Repayment of her years of making the delusional argument that war can be feminist or progressive.

Thank you, HRC-your class will now reward you.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:35 PM

2. We love you, Hillary.

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Hope we still see you around.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:52 PM

16. +1!!! nt

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:42 PM

37. Yes! Thank you Skinner. Hillary Clinton has served...

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...this country way beyond what anyone should be asked to do, as an attorney, as Arkansas' first lady, as our country's first lady, as a Senator, as a candidate for President and as Secretary of State. (It makes me exhausted just thinking about it.)

I am glad she is putting herself on her own 'to do' list. I hope she enjoys her time away. In the future, should she choose to seek office again, I'll support her 100%.

Thank you, Hillary!

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Response to YvonneCa (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:59 PM

114. She was a cheerleader for what she knew was a useless war

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No woman in Iraq benefited in the slightest from all that death. Neither has any woman in Afghanistan. War is only good for male dominance. It can't have progressive or feminist results anywhere anymore.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #114)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:07 PM

115. And I disagrees with her and those who...

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...supported that war. "A dumb war" to quote our President. And I disagree with HIM on education.

I still wish Hillary well...she works hard for what she believes and for this country. She's not perfect. Neither is Obama. Neither am I.

Peace...

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:46 PM

64. Agreed.

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Classy lady and a pillar in the democratic party.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:19 PM

96. Some of us don't love her. Some of us are saying GOOD RIDDANCE because of what she has done. n.t

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Response to antigop (Reply #96)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:58 PM

113. And some of us can't stand Obama and there he is.

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That's life.........

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Response to Beacool (Reply #113)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:13 PM

116. I'm not thrilled with either of them

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Still, it does go without saying that a HRC presidency would have been to the right of Obama's-which would automatically have made it a political failure and made the losses in 2010 even greater.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:48 PM

118. I have a feeling she'll be around in one form or another

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Maybe writing, speaking, punditry etc. I hope so.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:33 AM

135. + a million.

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To Hillary,

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:58 AM

136. +x100

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:37 PM

3. she will be missed and I hope she stays in the public eye

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you go girl!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:37 PM

4. I am sorry to hear this.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:38 PM

5. We've known that for a year or so, haven't we?

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Response to lamp_shade (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:59 PM

24. Yes.

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This seems to mostly be her tamping down wishful thinking on the part of people who thought she didn't really mean it before.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:38 PM

6. Let her retire.

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Then nominate her for the Supreme Court next opening. Especially if the next opening is Scalia or Thomas' seat.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:39 PM

8. Excellent idea.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:39 PM

9. I like the way you think! eom

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:50 PM

12. great idea. nt

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:55 PM

19. I LIKE this! Yes! Yes! YES!

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The honorable Hillary Rodham-Clinton as our next justice!

I believe Kennedy might retire, together with Ginsberg and maybe Bryer, but Thomas and Scalia will stay on their seats until they're taken away by paramedics.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:27 PM

46. Hillary is a tad too old to be nominated to the Supreme Court, she'll be 65 this year.

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The 'majority' of current Justices were well under the age of 60 when appointed.

Current Justices here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Supreme_Court#Current_justices

The fifth column shows their age at appointment.

Early 50s appears to be the median age.



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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:17 PM

117. Dang. That's true.

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You're right. Unfortunately, she's not young enough.

But, imo, she would've made a durn good SCOTUS Justice.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:46 PM

50. The Four Assholes of the Apocalypse might as well be considered papal.

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Those hyperpartisan Dons will leave when there are ambulances at 1 First Street, NE.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:37 PM

49. That might be a good thing.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:16 PM

61. Most excellent idea.

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OMG, the brain splatter all over freeper monitors, and keyboard if that was ever announced.
Not likely, but one could dream.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:56 PM

65. Oh, yeah!!!! nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:38 PM

7. I can understand how she feels

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I wish her luck and happiness with whatever life has in store for her. She deserves some down time.

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Response to MaineDem (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:46 PM

63. Hear, hear

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It's hard to imagine a career as depressing as politics is these days.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:42 PM

10. Thank you for your service,Hillary. Hope

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you will still be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:48 PM

11. She looked really spent at the SOTU speech

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Best wishes!

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:51 PM

14. I thought so, too.

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Job well done, Hillary!

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:53 PM

17. Digital television definition can be cruel, even on an analog television. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:51 PM

13. she does look tired.

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Response to DesertFlower (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:24 PM

45. She did

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It was written all over her face. Hopefully she can now take some time to BGTH (Be Good To Herself).

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:52 PM

15. It's odd this story isn't on cnn.com, msnbc.com, Google News, etc.

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You would think this would be big-time breaking news everywhere, if she had in fact decided to call it quits.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:56 PM

22. Great! Thanks (nt)

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Response to JaneQPublic (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:56 PM

21. This has been "out there" for a year or more. She's just prepping her team as we get closer to the

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election. She'll wait until after the election, to give Obama time to choose a new SECSTATE, get that person through the nomination process, and do a turnover with that person. It's not a surprise, though.

For a time, there was speculation that she and Joe Biden would "switch jobs" after the election. I haven't heard that one lately, though.

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Response to MADem (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:00 PM

25. Had she announced before that she was going to step down after the election?

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I must admit I don't know.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:11 PM

29. I remember reading an article about this very thing about a year ago.

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Here we go--March of last year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8386818/Hillary-Clinton-will-step-down-after-2012.html


Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, has confirmed that she will not serve in the next Barack Obama administration if the president wins a second term in 2012.


There's a bit of video/interview as well.

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Response to JaneQPublic (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:04 PM

26. OK. Apparently the "stepping down" part is not new.

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This is from last October:

In an interview yesterday, Mrs Clinton said that she believes President Barack Obama will be re-elected and that she expects to leave her current job after a transition period in his second term.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048271/Hillary-Clinton-yearns-private-life-2012-presidential-election.html

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Response to Skinner (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:22 PM

33. I'm beginning to think that this is just an AP filler story.

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I had problems finding links. HuffPo had it on their homepage, then pulled it.

Yes, we already knew she wasn't going past the President's first term.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:28 PM

34. Maybe swap out your story for this one?

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Hillary Clinton Says She’s Ready to Step Off ‘the High Wire of American Politics’

It’s not the first time she’s said she’s leaving government service after her current job, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton definitively said today she wants out of politics.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/hillary-clinton-says-shes-ready-to-step-off-the-high-wire-of-american-politics/

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Response to Skinner (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:33 PM

35. Done. nt

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Response to Skinner (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:41 PM

55. What is "new" here is that she got all her peeps together in the auditorium at State.

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She's basically giving them notice. Now's the time, if you wanna jump, to do it. You have a shot at a good slot in another agency, maybe working for a bullet proof incumbent on the Hill working international/state issues? JUMP! Go now! Get the good reference while people are still here to give it to you. Also, understand that if you are in one of my SECSTATE-designated "grace and favor" jobs, that the new guy or gal is going to want to put his/her own people in that slot, so start looking around for another slot in the civil service tier you might be able to slide into....

That's how I see it, anyway. To my view, it IS LBN--for those reasons, alone.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:54 PM

18. I wish her well and hope she gets to do whatever she wants to do.

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BTW this puts a stop to the karl rove / right wing dirty rumor that Biden will be Sec. of State
and Hillary will be Veep.

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Response to Botany (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:56 PM

66. We should all be so lucky. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:06 PM

27. Thank you Hillary. You have served your nation well.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:08 PM

28. I look forward to establishment of the -

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Hillary Clinton Foundation. Her focus will be on those issues that have always been most important to her - women and girls. I would assume she will continue her work for housing/help for GLBT teens.

If she has annual summits I will attend. Can't wait. So much to do - so little time.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

30. I owe her my support if runs in 2016

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She kept her word--no, she was better than her word--to campaign for the Obama-Biden ticket after the grueling primaries were over.

She will be my first choice for the nomination in 4 years if she wants it.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:11 PM

42. I agree

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and I say this as one who fights with the hillary "supporters" that seem to hate Obama so much.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:30 AM

121. She is brilliant, and we were lucky to have had her for as long as we did. Thank you, Hillary!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:17 PM

31. Hillary has done yeoman's work in a brutal job.

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Her term as SoS has been one of the brightest spots of the last three years.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:17 PM

32. She's hinted at this over the last few months

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by saying she's very much looking forward to retirement.

I knew she'd grow into the job as SOS and she did. She's been one of the better ones we've seen in the past 40 years or so. However, it's an exhausting job, the jet lag alone burning people out in record time.

Books and speaking engagements will be a lot easier on her. I hope she does both.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:39 PM

36. Hillary for USSC

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:47 PM

38. Good riddance to DLC sHillary. Don't let the door hit you. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:52 PM

39. Not cool. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:55 PM

41. Not cool that she sold out the American worker. nt

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Response to antigop (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:47 PM

56. What's not cool is your abject cluelessness.

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Aside from the fact that you win the "I'm a total thread-shitter" prize with a quick and cheap piece of unsubstantiated snark.

You really want to discuss your gripes? Gird your loins and fire up a thread on the topic--don't do a wussy little chickenshit drive-by on a farewell thread.

Cheap shot. What sort of person delivers those? The question almost answers itself.

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Response to MADem (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:36 PM

71. I've posted MANY times on DU about DLC sHIllary. WATCH THESE VIDEOS!

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Response to antigop (Reply #71)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:48 PM

77. Why don't you post your own threads instead of hijacking those of others?

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And while you're at it, the Ancient History Forum is that-a-way.

You're really a piece of work.

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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:13 PM

88. I won't watch them. They have nothing to do with the OP. Go peddle your gripes elsewhere.

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Your thread hijacking conduct is unacceptable.

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Response to MADem (Reply #88)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:17 PM

93. Thank you for the opportunity to draw attention to the videos and what DLC sHillary has done.

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That's why we say GOOD RIDDANCE TO HER.

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Response to MADem (Reply #77)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:51 PM

81. So I'm not allowed to disagree with sHillary lovefest? n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #81)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:14 PM

89. You're being DELIBERATELY DISRUPTIVE. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #89)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:18 PM

95. NO, you're not allowing someone to disagree with the sHillary lovefest. WATCH THE VIDEOS! n/t

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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:38 PM

73. After all this time are you still clueless about the DLC? How pitiful. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #73)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:51 PM

79. You are being rude, disruptive, hurtful and over-the-top--and I don't think I'm the only one

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noticing your poor behavior. Thread hijacking is just one way that people "make DU suck." You are doing one heck of a job at crapping on a good thread, but I suspect that was your tiny little goal.

Keep it up, pal (and that was sarcastic, in case you didn't quite take my meaning).

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Response to MADem (Reply #79)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:53 PM

82. I'm drawing attention to what she has done. I guess you can't stand the DLC being called out. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #82)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:56 PM

84. No you are not--you are deliberately, with malice, disrupting a thread about her retirement.

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You want to play "call out" games? Start your own thread, or be vilified as a disruptor.

The only thing you are calling attention to is your shitty, uncivil conduct.

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Response to MADem (Reply #84)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:58 PM

85. I'm saying GOOD RIDDANCE. I'm allowed to say that about a DLCer. No love lost. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #85)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:15 PM

90. Good riddance? You mean you're leaving? Oh, happy day. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #90)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:16 PM

92. You haven't addressed the videos and what she has done. GOOD RIDDANCE TO HER. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #92)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:18 PM

94. What part of "I will not watch your thread-disrupting videos, you rude person" is unclear to you? nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #94)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:21 PM

98. HAHA. I'm "rude" because I point out why I say GOOD RIDDANCE. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #98)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:26 PM

101. You are rude--and obtuse--because you persist in antisocial conduct. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #101)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:27 PM

102. I'm sorry that you can't handle the truth about the DLC and what DLC sHIllary has done. n /t

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Response to antigop (Reply #102)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:28 PM

103. Here's the truth--you are a disruptor. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #103)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:30 PM

105. Nope...just expressing my opinion of GOOD RIDDANCE on her retirement. The VIDEOS explain why. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #102)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:13 AM

133. You lost your credibility

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The moment you called her sHillary. He name is Hillary, or Madam Secretary, or Mrs. Clinton. You're free to dislike whomever you choose but expect to get flames when you act like a grade school kid by changing a name the way you did hers.

Intellectual people present a coherent argument, they don't act like children. Do you understand?

Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it.

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Response to MADem (Reply #94)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:22 PM

99. You won't even watch the videos to find out why I say GOOD RIDDANCE. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #99)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:25 PM

100. Now you're getting it--who ever said you weren't clever? nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #100)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:29 PM

104. I'm clever enough to figure out the damage the DLC has done. The videos demonstrate the damage. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #85)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:37 AM

122. And I'm allowed to say "shut the Hell up!" Enough!

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Response to MADem (Reply #84)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:07 PM

86. Where's the rule that everyone has to be happy smiley about a pol's retirement?

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You have a right to your opinion and so does everybody else.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #86)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:12 PM

87. The posts should at least relate to the OP. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #87)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:15 PM

91. My posts do relate to the OP. GOOD RIDDANCE TO HER for what she's done. n/t

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Response to MADem (Reply #79)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:55 PM

83. No one has responded to the videos....because you can't defend the indefensible. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #83)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:38 AM

123. No one is watching them. Get a clue!

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Response to juajen (Reply #123)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:10 AM

126. What you said!

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Response to MADem (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:19 AM

128. This is a farewell thread? I thought it was in LBN

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Being in LBN, it would seem open to various opinions?

I haven't read anything here even half as rough as what I've said on the site any number of times about HRC. Since when is calling someone a DLCer beyond the pale?

I couldn't care less whether HRC goes or stays - whichever, whomever is in the position will be a good servant of the MIC, so what matter which face s/he wears?

That I personally will be just as happy to not have to see or hear her so often is incidental. Changing the face will not change the hypocritical stock-phrases about how the US is bringing "peace and freedom" around the world, or the pandering to our sacred "homeland" "security."

She's served our Masters well and they've rewarded her well. Maybe they'll give her the Nobel Peace too. I'm sure she'll be more than comfortable in her retirement. It won't matter a lick to the rest of us.

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Response to bread_and_roses (Reply #128)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:21 AM

129. Guess what? No one cares what you think. Thread derailer/disruptor=bad form. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #129)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:57 AM

131. So it's now disruptive to call someone a DLCer? Interesting ...

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... since there must be at least a million instances of same in DU's history.

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Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:40 PM

76. Aw, someone doesn't like the DLCers called out. Too bad. nt

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Response to antigop (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:28 PM

53. I like to see antone do as good a job as she has. I wish she would stay.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #53)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:40 PM

75. Yes, she's done a great job selling out the American workers. WATCH THE VIDEOS! nt

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Response to antigop (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:10 PM

68. What a (((NASTY))) thing to say about a woman who has dedicated over half of her life in

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public service. Sometimes politics is the root of all evil.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #68)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:39 PM

74. She's DLC. That says it all. n.t

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Response to antigop (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:42 PM

106. Why don't you let the door hit YOU in the ass?????

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Hillary does more to help others in one week that you'll ever do in a lifetime. Ditto for Bill.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #106)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:47 PM

107. Tell that to the tech workers she threw under the bus. Ah, yes, NAFTA Bill. n/t

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Response to antigop (Reply #107)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:43 AM

120. So...

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Hillary is responsible for policies her husband enacted?

BTW, how do you feel about Obama? He signed into law 3 more "free trade" agreements last year.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #106)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:49 PM

108. So did you watch the videos I posted? They explain why I say GOOD RIDDANCE to her. n/t

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Response to Beacool (Reply #106)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:51 PM

109. Also do a search on DLC. Plenty of stuff posted on it. n/t

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:55 PM

40. I wish her well - and look forward to Chelsea helping us

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Chelsea has a facebook account now and it is being updated with her activities (which are interesting). She has never decided to have a public face in this way before and I hope it means she is thinking about running for office.

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Response to TBF (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:50 PM

57. I hope she participates in public life but NEVER runs for office. EVER.

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I don't like the whole concept of political inheritance. I think she has sufficiently visibility to do good without jumping into the arena.

I hope she does whatever makes her happy, though, at the end of the day. She seems like a good kid--smart as all get out, thoughtful, quick, with good values and more compassion than most at her age and stage of life.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:15 PM

43. Hillary Clinton has done an outstanding job. What an exception public servant

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she has been.

Good luck!!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:15 PM

44. she looked tired at teh State of the Union

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actually more exhausted

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:32 PM

47. I wasn't a great fan of Hillary untill, ... ...

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she became Sec. of State. she did that job very well. I hope she retires, keeps her hubby in line, then thinks about becoming a Supreme!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:33 PM

48. After retirement Hillary wants to work on womens' rights globally

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not sure if there is a link anywhere where she has said that publicly, but Bill Clinton did say it in a recent interview on TV.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:18 PM

52. John Kerry or (fingers crossed!!) Susan Rice will hopefully step in

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I will miss Hillary though. Missteps and all, she is my girl.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:52 PM

58. We don't want to take a Senior Senator out of the Senate!

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Susan Rice, if we've the choice between the two!

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Response to MADem (Reply #58)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:58 PM

59. Absolutely agreed!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:34 PM

54. She's a poster girl for strength, toughness and resilience. n/t

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Response to deacon (Reply #54)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:16 PM

69. Agreed! She's a poster girl for woman in general...what a super role model for women and girls.

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You go Hilary...but first...relax...have fun and enjoy life...then write another book and work with Bill's Global Initiative.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #69)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:59 AM

132. ah yes - all my role models defend cluster bombs

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I mean, women and children have as much right to be blown to bits as men!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:15 PM

60. The democratic party is fortunate to have her and so is America. Too

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bad so many people have been ungrateful for her tireless service to our country and the world. She deserved to be treated much better, especially by her own party. I think most of it is sexism. We still have a long way to go in that regard in this country. I wish her all the best.

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Response to Liquorice (Reply #60)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:55 PM

111. Hear, hear!!!

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That's why I'm now an Independent.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:23 PM

62. She looks ill and she definitely looks like she just doesn't care. There's

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been talk on how she looks absolutely exhausted. Couple that with several members of Congress getting cancer treatment, one can't help but wonder if possibly she might be seriously ill? I'm not out to start a rumor just that there's been true concern in Ark., asking if she is okay.

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Response to Hestia (Reply #62)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:22 PM

70. She's just plain exhauster! You'd be too if you traveled the world repeatedly for 3 years.

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Look how tired we all claim to be after a trip...we blame it on jet lag. Why do you say she looks like she doesn't care? That's unfair!

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Response to Hestia (Reply #62)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:49 PM

119. She looked very tired

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at the State of the Union Address. Nancy Pelosi looked much younger, though she's not, though she did look a little surprised.

I doubt she would be quitting her job if she had won the nomination for '08, though.

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Response to Hestia (Reply #62)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:19 AM

127. The woman is in her mid sixties, and she doesn't have "hair and makeup" following her anymore.

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She's doing that stuff herself, and if her college years are any indication, she's a hippie from way back when, so I'm guessing she doesn't place a Callista-like emphasis on that kind of crap.

We also now see her under the glare of very unkind television lights, on digital televisions. No more fuzzy softness of the analog signals. It's a cruel venue, no matter who you are.

She's also constantly on the go. She never catches a break.

She needs a vacation and a regular schedule where she wakes up and goes to sleep in the same time zone for a few weeks at a time. Then she'll look like a million bucks.

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Response to MADem (Reply #127)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:19 PM

137. When I found out there is no real bed and no shower on the SOS plane I was shocked.

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I am her age and if I had her job I would of required some upgrades.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #137)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:28 PM

142. I agree--at least an air mattress in the back, or something!!!

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And no shower? That's flat out cruel. She should be able to "live aboard" if need be.

Remember when GWHB and Bill Clinton--fresh off of heart surgery--went to help with tsunami aid on one of the old planes that used to do duty as AF ONE? Poppy grabbed the one bed, so Bill, fresh scar and all, had to sleep on the floor. Now if it were me, even if I were the older guy, I'd give the bed to the guy who just got outta heart surgery....but I couldn't sleep if I knew that someone fresh off the operating table wasn't able to be comfortable.

I was astounded that the staff didn't fucking THINK, myself--that would be the first thing I would have done if I were managing a trip for a distinguished set of visitors--you make sure there's enough food, enough places to crap/toilet paper, places to sleep, and a medicine chest full of OTC meds for any/every malady. Even if they had to haul in a cot and bolt it to the floor, they should have configured the place so both presidents could lay down and sleep.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:02 PM

67. That woman has got to be EXHAUSTED.

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She's worked her ass off for the last 20 years, including her years in the WH. Love her or hate her, you gotta admit she's brilliant, energetic and formidable . . .

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:51 PM

80. SecState has GOT to be tough

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Traveling everywhere, constantly jetlagged, having to smile and be diplomatic, plus running a major department! She's GOT to be tired.

Hillary, I thank you for your service to your country. You've done a great job.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:53 PM

110. I will miss seeing her regularly,

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but politics is in the Clintons' blood and Hillary has more stamina than people half her age.

There's this:

"I have made it clear that I will certainly stay on until the president nominates someone and that transition can occur" if Obama wins re-election, she told a town hall meeting. "But I think after 20 years, and it will be 20 years, of being on the high wire of American politics and all of the challenges that come with that, it would be probably a good idea to just find out how tired I am."

But, she appeared to leave the door open for a possible eventual return, adding to laughter from the crowd that "everyone always says that when they leave these jobs."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/26/hillary-clinton-stepping-down_n_1234221.html

So, here's hoping that after some time of much derserved rest she decides to run for president in 2016.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:17 AM

124. I believe that she has done an excellent job as SOS -

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she has done a credible job in rebuilding much of the goodwill lost during the 2001-2008 period.

Unfortunately, the Obama Administration inherited two unnecessary (one, at least, also illegal) wars in addition to the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. It is still too heavy-handed in using military options/solutions, IMO. While I have not always been happy with the pace of withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, at least it is happening. What is sad is to see the devastation and instability that have been left behind after throwing trillions of $$$ badly needed in the US into the money pits, basically increasing the gap between wealthy and poor in those societies as well as our own and exacerbating their religious and ethnic differences, not to mention opening up more opium traffic from Afghanistan to the West. Those adverse consequences don't even include the hundreds of thousands of lives lost on all sides, as well as the millions whose lives have been adversely affected both here and abroad.

What continues to taint US foreign policy throughout much of the world, however, is the consistently festering - and, at times, explosive - I-P situation. So long as it exists as it does, there will never be stability anywhere in the ME, let alone peace. Frankly, so long as the USG continues to heed the most radically RW voices (both Jewish & Christian) in this matter, no fair resolution - or sadly even rational discussion of how best to proceed - will be allowed here.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:36 AM

125. I think she'll probably be a global advocate on women's issues

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Good role for her, IMO

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:54 AM

130. NOOOOOooooooo..... . . . !!

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Dont' leave me, Hillary! I was just getting to know you!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:32 AM

134. This makes me so sad.

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It sounds like she really isn't going to run in 2016. I was really, REALLY! hoping she would.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:34 PM

138. I question the timing of this announcement. I love Hillary and hope to see her stay in politics ....

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I know that she has previously made a similar declaration earlier last year. I think it is odd that she would make this announcement right after the SOTU speech. I don't know how that looks for Obama. I don't think it was necessary for her to come out with such a strong message of NO given that she still has high approval ratings and it makes the Obama White House team not sound very cohesive (though I know that the SoS doesn't always stay on for a second term. I wonder if there is more to this......maybe it is wishful thinking on my part. In any event, she is an amazing human being--intelligent accomplished and inspiration to many--I still would like to see her run and WIN in 2016! =)

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Response to tropicanarose (Reply #138)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:17 PM

139. She was responding to a question.

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She didn't call a press conference to announce her departure. Besides, she has been saying the same thing for months now.

As for her approval rating. She has been the most popular politician in the country for a long time now.

I too hope that she changes her mind and decides to run in 2016.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:19 PM

140. Can't say I blame her. She's had to fight and fight hard, every step of the way. eom

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:57 PM

141. I don't blame her - She's been great

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I can't get over how tired she looked at the President's State of the Union address. She's worked so hard. No one could've done better and more and she deserves to enjoy what's left of her life and health instead of having it ruined by the cares and concerns of this corrupt government.

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