Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:45 AM
Are_grits_groceries (12,586 posts)
Paterno's family better be careful what they wish for:
Joe Paterno's Family Wants All Emails And Records Released
Following the conclusion of the Jerry Sandusky trial, news has come out that a report by former FBI Director Louis Freeh could shed some light on the 2001 Penn State investigation into the initial Sandusky allegations. Early leaked emails from the report appear to suggest that former Penn St. Nittany Lions head coach Joe Paterno may have been involved in discussions that concluded the Sandusky allegations would be better left as an internal PSU matter and not brought to outside authorities. Genaro C. Armas of the Associated Press reports that Paterno's family is requesting that Freeh release all of the emails and records regarding the investigation. Paterno's family believes that the leaking of specific emails is intentionally casting the late coach in a harsh light and is tantamount to slander. <snip> http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/7/2/3133996/joe-paterno-family-emails-records?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Might get more than they bargained for.
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| Are_grits_groceries | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| ljm2002 | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| Spider Jerusalem | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| Spider Jerusalem | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| Spider Jerusalem | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| Baitball Blogger | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| maryellen99 | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| Johonny | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| Bake | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| CBGLuthier | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| Initech | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| MadrasT | Jul 2012 | #17 |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:38 AM
ljm2002 (7,301 posts)
1. That was my thought too...
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...upon reading the story about the emails.
They are apparently remaining in a state of denial about the whole thing. People find it easy to forget that his inaction, and the inaction of others, led directly to the rape and abuse of more young men / boys. You simply cannot spin that away. They don't want to admit that their beloved patriarch was involved in a coverup. But he was. |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:01 AM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
2. Why isn't Louis Freeh being dragged into this?
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What a complete failure in history he was.
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:14 AM
Spider Jerusalem (15,368 posts)
3. Why should he be?
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He was head of the FBI under Clinton; whatever was happening with Sandusky and Penn State it didn't rise to the level of something that would warrant Federal action--although if it had involved, say, Mann Act violations...transporting a minor aross state lines for an immoral purpose...then it might have done, but that didn't come up at the time at all. So I don't see what Freeh has to do with anything apart from his conducting an independent investigation now.
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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:19 AM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
4. Freeh was a tool for the right during the Clinton witchhunt.
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If he had investigated the Sandusky situation he might have discovered the evidence which hadn't come up, as you put it. That is, afterall, the purpose of our criminal justice departments, right? I've probably been more subjected to scrutiny than well to do white males. Yeah, it's an issue.
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:59 AM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,321 posts)
6. Freeh's time in the FBI has nothing to do with this
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Last edited Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He's been hired as an independent investigator on this matter. No one outside of Penn State knew there was a "Sandusky situation" when he was heading the FBI.
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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:27 PM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
10. His non-effectiveness in the late nineties earns him the right to exit left.
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IMHO.
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:00 PM
Spider Jerusalem (15,368 posts)
7. Why on earth should the FBI get involved in something which doesn't cross state lines?
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It wasn't even reported to Pennsylvania's child welfare services and the local police despite a cursory investigation seem to've more or less dropped things; what reason would there have been for the FBI to get involved?
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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:26 PM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
8. Are you telling me that the FBI has NEVER crossed the line
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when it felt a situation was warranted? Are you telling me that the laws haven't slackened to the point that there's more cross-over cooperation between the agencies than there was prior to 9/11?
I disagree. Someone made the decision to keep it inhouse. If Freeh knew about the details and let this one slide, he is part of the problem that allowed the dominant status quo to remain in power. |
Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #8)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:31 PM
Spider Jerusalem (15,368 posts)
11. I think you must be trolling
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Freeh's tenure as FBI director ended in June 2001; there's no indication that there was any reason for a Federal agency to become involved in the Sandusky investigation at any point; the investigation in 1998 was conducted by campus police and local law enforcement, and never rose to involving state-level agencies much less Federal ones.
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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #11)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:33 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,321 posts)
12. No, I think they're serious, sadly
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Last edited Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:35 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I don't think they have any clue whatsoever as to the timeline of this case. They just saw Freeh's name and assumed this has been public knowledge since 1998.
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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:39 PM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
14. You are right.
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Louis Freeh's name = a red cape
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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #11)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:38 PM
Baitball Blogger (11,268 posts)
13. I will concede you one major point.
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My feelings about Louis Freeh are so passionately negative, that I'm blinded to anything that has to do with him.
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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:46 AM
Johonny (11,068 posts)
5. I agree with the family
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''The question that needs to be asked is why this breach of confidentiality ... is not being objected to or otherwise addressed by those in a position of authority,'' Sollers said. ''It should not be the responsibility of the Paterno family to call for an honest, independent investigation. Given the seriousness and complexity of this case, everyone should be demanding the full truth, not just carefully selected excerpts of certain emails.''
Sollers said Paterno didn't fear the truth and had asked his family and advisers to ''pursue the full truth. ... It is the course that we will follow to the end.'' By selectively releasing emails they have gotten to select what angle of story they want to tell people. Since Joe is dead a full release is about the best you can hope for to understand what he really knew, did and when. If your going to be damned, better to be damned with all the information than let other people selectively release it. Personally I think Joe Pa is not likely to look better after full disclosure, but as a family member I'd probably ask for it too. |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:26 PM
Bake (21,689 posts)
9. Sure, release them all.
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Let the world see what a douche "JoePa" really was.
Bake |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:49 PM
CBGLuthier (8,919 posts)
15. Which is a greater monster, a child molester following compulsions or a supposedly sane and normal
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man who allows his buddy the VIP coach to molest children?
Paterno, if these reports are true, was a true blue piece of shit. I wish there were a hell just so he could rot in it. |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 01:48 PM
Initech (38,858 posts)
16. And Joe Paterno got a hero's funeral because stubborn football fans were too afraid to see the truth.
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Release the e-mails - let the truth be known about that rotten scumbag Sandusky and the effort to cover uo his horrendous crimes.
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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 02:50 PM
MadrasT (5,687 posts)
17. As a PSU alumna who was born in Bellefonte who has Penn State blue in my blood from first breath,
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I would like to know the truth, no matter how bad it may be for JoePa.
I am still devastated about what those bastards did. My diplomas came off the wall and went in a drawer months ago. Truth. All of it. |

