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Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:27 PM

NY Times - "A Party to the Russian Connection" - Why McConnell Will Not Investigate

Part of the reason why Republicans are obstructing any type of independent inquiry is because it will highlight their aggressive efforts to oppose any disclosure of Trump's Russian connections during the campaign. They are in too deep.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/a-party-to-the-russian-connection.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

President Trumpís disturbing Russian connections present an acute danger to American national security. According to reports this week, Mr. Trumpís team maintained frequent contact with Russian officials, including senior intelligence officers, during the campaign. This led to concerns about possible collusion with one of Americaís principal strategic adversaries as it tried to influence the election in Mr. Trumpís favor. On Monday, Mr. Trumpís national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, was forced to resign after details of his communications with the Russian ambassador emerged.

Republican leaders in Congress now bear the most responsibility for holding the president accountable and protecting the nation. They canít say they didnít see the Russian interference coming. They knew all along.

Early in 2015, senior Republican congressional leaders visited Ukraine and returned full of praise for its fight for independence in spite of Russiaís efforts to destabilize the country and annex some of its regions. And in June, coincidentally just before Mr. Trump announced his campaign for the Republican nomination, they met with Ukraineís prime minister in Washington ó one of many meetings I attended as a senior aide to the House Republican Conference.

As the presidential race wore on, some of those leaders began to see parallels between Russiaís disinformation operations in Ukraine and Europe and its activities in the United States. They were alarmed by the Kremlin-backed cable network RT America, which was running stories intended, they judged, to undermine Americansí trust in democratic institutions and promote Mr. Trumpís candidacy. Deeply unsettled, the leaders discussed these concerns privately on several occasions I witnessed.

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Reply NY Times - "A Party to the Russian Connection" - Why McConnell Will Not Investigate (Original post)
TomCADem Feb 17 OP
dalton99a Feb 17 #1
triron Feb 17 #2
Crash2Parties Feb 18 #51
DK504 Feb 18 #58
Crash2Parties Feb 18 #60
TrekLuver Feb 17 #3
kimbutgar Feb 17 #4
AnotherMother4Peace Feb 17 #5
kairos12 Feb 17 #6
Tanuki Feb 17 #7
Botany Feb 17 #11
Scarsdale Feb 17 #31
otohara Feb 17 #8
Cracklin Charlie Feb 17 #9
NewJeffCT Feb 17 #10
Scarsdale Feb 17 #32
Mike Nelson Feb 17 #12
2naSalit Feb 17 #13
rockfordfile Feb 17 #37
forgotmylogin Feb 17 #14
DFW Feb 17 #15
tomp Feb 17 #42
JudyM Feb 17 #44
uponit7771 Feb 18 #55
bucolic_frolic Feb 17 #16
Botany Feb 17 #18
saidsimplesimon Feb 17 #17
erronis Feb 17 #41
mn9driver Feb 17 #19
mikelewis Feb 17 #20
DinahMoeHum Feb 17 #21
saidsimplesimon Feb 17 #38
DinahMoeHum Feb 17 #40
benld74 Feb 17 #22
kiranerys Feb 17 #49
KewlKat Feb 17 #23
blm Feb 17 #24
jaysunb Feb 17 #34
Marcuse Feb 17 #25
Raster Feb 17 #26
jannyd65 Feb 17 #30
Raster Feb 17 #33
red dog 1 Feb 17 #45
JDC Feb 17 #27
Retrograde Feb 17 #28
BSdetect Feb 17 #29
MyOwnPeace Feb 17 #35
kentuck Feb 17 #36
world wide wally Feb 17 #39
SleeplessinSoCal Feb 17 #43
dhill926 Feb 17 #46
bdamomma Feb 17 #47
LaydeeBug Feb 17 #48
TomCADem Feb 18 #53
red dog 1 Feb 17 #50
volstork Feb 18 #52
AgadorSparticus Feb 18 #54
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:30 PM

1. Kick.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:33 PM

2. what now?

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Response to triron (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:32 AM

51. Now the Democrats will...tilt at windmills and focus on campaigning in early 2018.

But its going to be a clean campaign, not one of those messy ones where they point out how awful the GOP has been.

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Response to Crash2Parties (Reply #51)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:22 PM

58. Hopefully the democrats will stay with investigations

while they gear up to drive these criminal out of Congress.

They can not back off from this admins crimes, with in one month, has committed.

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Response to DK504 (Reply #58)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 09:23 PM

60. But even if they do find the will, do they have the power to back it?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:35 PM

3. Great...it's time to clean house.

 

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:37 PM

4. I think if there was a real investigation about Russia and the election it would go up

To chump, mcConnell, Ryan and prebuis. The traitors accepted Russia's help. There is collusion and there is the evidence of it. It will take a real patriot to expose it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:37 PM

5. "They are in too deep." & Republicans need to answer for their treasonous acts. nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:39 PM

6. The Rethugs are treasonous Putin boot lickers.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:41 PM

7. McConnell's attempts to undermine the American government goes back at least

to the day of President Obama's 2008 inauguration. I chalked it up to McConnell being a racist sack of shit and on the sub rosa payroll of multiple corporate interests that the Democrats try to regulate for the common good, but maybe he has been a Kremlin tool for a long time. Investigate, follow the money, release the Republicans' private e-mails! Don't let Putin purchase all 3 branches of the United States government!

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:52 PM

11. How did McConnell know that after the election he would get a different pick for SCOTUS?

treason!

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Response to Botany (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:40 PM

31. He knew

because the fix was in. His wife got a lucrative government job out of his keeping his mouth shut, too. He has been i office TOO loNG. He made his millions of $$$ now he should retire, or else be thrown out of office.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:42 PM

8. Justice or Just Us?

 

party over people/justice/environment/civil rights and all the other shit they hate.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:50 PM

9. Oh, snap!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:50 PM

10. stunning

Mitch should resign his seat if this is proven

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:45 PM

32. Resign?

No, be charged with TREASON. This creep has been a thorn in the side of true democracy for years and years. Charge the ugly old phart with treason. Orin Hatch is another grifting crook, keeping the health industries in business along with his son, the lobbyist' Time to clean the swamp of gop leeches.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:54 PM

12. Lock them Up...

...Lock them Up!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:03 PM

13. As I have been saying, they are all

guilty/complicit.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:39 PM

37. yes

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:09 PM

14. Just like I posted. It's like a zombie invasion, or cockroaches.

There isn't just *one* person affected.

You see one roach, there's likely 100 more.

If your arm gets bitten by a zombie, amputating the arm doesn't protect you from turning.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:12 PM

15. In retrospect, this makes a LOT of sense

Putin's quiet message to the Republican leadership:

"You let Trump happen, and I'll help make sure Hillary does not."

The Supreme Court was obviously as much on the Republicans' minds as it was on ours. The ONLY reason for McTurtle to risk denying a moderate like Garland as much as a hearing would have been if he was reasonably certain NINE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION that the next president, all logic to the contrary, would be a Republican.

NOW whom should we be locking up, hmmm?

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Response to DFW (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 07:21 PM

42. frankly, irrespective of the reason he denied a garland hearing....

...it was congressional dereliction of duty. obamas response was as weak as gores after the 2000 coup. he, like gore, should have rallied all patriotic Americans to oppose these actions en masse.







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Response to DFW (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:22 PM

44. Well, that AND HEs FREAKIN RACIST. Nt

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Response to DFW (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:04 AM

55. +1

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:17 PM

16. They enlisted help of a foreign power so they could seize control and enact their polluting agenda

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:25 PM

18. +1

Mitch was standing right behind Trump as he signing off on letting
coal companies dump their wastes into the streams and rivers.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:22 PM

17. Republicans should

dump Mitch. My dream includes a Lindsey Graham, John McCain full frontal attack. Surely there is someone who wants to save the Republican Party from Russian agents. Sarcasm

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 07:09 PM

41. sarcasm noted. If there were a shred of ethics or humanity in Graham, McCain

They would have left their Good Ole Potty.

My guess is that every critter that ever was, and lived in the warrens of the house and senate; that every critter has some darkness following them around. Even if they went into the political arena with a clean slate (unlikely), they were sullied by their handlers (DNC/RNC/USSR/$$$).

The last time I saw this study, they were ranked below used-car salespersons and carnival barkers (no disrespect meant to either of those fine occupations!!!

We are so attuned to hearing even some positive comment from one of the repuglicans that we'll give them a break on several more absolutely stupid statements or votes. Every now and then Graham and McCain say some words that make sense. 10%? Mostly they vote with their inconscious and their need for $$$ and power.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:47 PM

19. Washington Republicans are more of a criminal conspiracy than a political party.

The country needs real investigations. And those are not going to happen.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:02 PM

20. I'm not sure how this links to complicity of McConnell...

Opportunism in spite of the remote possibility 45 was a Manchurian Candidate sure but no one could have guessed this would be the outcome. The mainstream Republican party was hijacked and these guys had no choice but to go along... whatever gains they may have once thought they would get are dashing on orange furry rocks... they'll come around.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:04 PM

21. Gawd, I sure do miss Rep. Charlie Wilson (RIP)

As a Democrat who loved to have a good time while fighting the bad guys (and he was a Naval Academy grad), he'd be absolutely sickened over the way Trump, his staff, and the GOP are playing kissy-kissy with the likes of Putin and the Russian oligharchs.

For further inspiration, watch Charlie Wilson's War on DVD or streaming.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:51 PM

38. Dinah

The movie made it clear the Wilson used his budgetary influence to divert tax payer dollars to the Taliban. He also lived a lavish life of drugs and women, according to the movie. Not my role model and rogue under the table deals are part of the problem, imo.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #38)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 07:02 PM

40. WTF, man?

It's called "doing the right thing for the wrong reasons". Frankly, I have no issue with it.



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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:04 PM

22. The URL RT.com

SUpposedly Russia backed

Alot of similar stories between what DT states, has said etc is on the site.

Alot of backing of what DT has done, is doing, what ICE is doing

Eerily spooky

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Response to benld74 (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:45 PM

49. RT (Russia Today) is the Russian state media

Not just Russia backed. Kind of like the BBC, except that Russia is an autocracy that uses RT for propaganda purposes.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:21 PM

23. kick

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:22 PM

24. DUers, spread this story all over social media - call out the GOP as traitors putting power

over country.

Heck - they betrayed their own party and its principles to claim power.

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Response to blm (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:11 PM

34. +1 n/t

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:41 PM

26. When I say "Comrade McConnell," I MEAN IT!

I believe turtleman is up to his beady little eyes in this mess. HE HAS MANY THINGS TO HIDE!

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Response to Raster (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:31 PM

30. I totally agree...

Don't forget, I think Ryan and Chaffetz might also be in cahoots or have some knowledge of what's going on too. As I said in another post, it was VERY naive of the republicans to not think that they were not hacked. They probably have more incriminating emails, data, etc. than the DNC.

Trump has a vendetta against the world, I know, but I believe he especially is angry at the republicans and it is his mission to bring them down along with him. I think there is video of him saying that he would not get in a foxhole with a republican-they can't be trusted. Now he has them kissing his ring....

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Response to jannyd65 (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 04:50 PM

33. I haven't forgotten Ryan or Chickenshit Chaffetz...

...I think Ryan *might be* smart enough to curb his meglomania and fly under the sedition radar. Chaffetz?... NOPE!, he's probably into the shit as much --or more-- than Comrade McTurtle.

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Response to jannyd65 (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:26 PM

45. "he especially is angry at the republicans & it is his mission to bring them down along with him"?

That may, indeed, be your belief, but the facts do not support this claim.

Do you have a source for this?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:43 PM

27. As they like to say "Drain the Swamp"

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:02 PM

28. And McConnell's wife, Elaine Chao, gets a cabinet position

Not one of the big ones, where she'd get a lot of national and maybe even televised scrutiny, but Transportation, where she can be slotted in with little fuss or attention. So McConnell has his own mole in Trump's cabinet.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:03 PM

29. McConnell has been getting away with pure hatred and obstruction for years.

I have no doubt he knew what was going on with Putin.

Follow the money.

What is his cut?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:28 PM

35. For Jon Stewart.........

Old children's song:

"You can't make a turtle come out,
You can't make a turtle come out.
You can knock on his door
but you can't ring a bell
and you can't make a turtle come out, come out,
You can't make a turtle come out."

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:36 PM

36. Exactly!

They should not be permitted to investigate because they are part of the investigation. There should be an independent investigation.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:57 PM

39. Word of advice to all 2018 Democratic candidates:

Make this a national election by not only running against Trump, but his enablers as well.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:14 PM

43. David Frum story?

I bet it is.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:29 PM

46. so, how do we get at these fucksticks....

when the repubs control the entire government?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:29 PM

47. It makes perfect sense

McConnell and his cabal knew and they are all traitors. The wheels of justice are grinding.......hope they move quicker.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:31 PM

48. Yep. They became a de facto arm of the KGB and fixed the elections. nt

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #48)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

53. In September 2016, McConnell Threatened To Accuse Democrats of Being Partisan...

...the investigation into Russian election interference was made public. Mitch McConnell is part of the cover-up.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/10/world-war-iii-democrats-and-america-vs-trump-and-russia.html

Good luck getting Republicans to agree on anything here. Mitch McConnell? Please. Heís the one who said, at a hush-hush meeting back in September where administration officials urged that bipartisan group of 12 legislators go public with concerns about Russian interference in the election, that he would not participate and that if Democrats did so, he would tell the American people this was just partisan politics.

Think that through. McConnell, according to the Post story, showed no concern about the truth of the allegations. And bear this nugget in mind: This was not Barack Obama trying to persuade him to join in this bipartisan effort. This was Lisa Monaco, the presidentís counterterrorism adviser; and Jeh Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security secretary; and FBI Director James Comey. McConnell told Comey, in essence, to go take a jump in the lake. McConnell was interested only in party, not at all in country. Thatís not treason, but it sure isnít patriotism.

This obviously cries out for hearings and an investigation, or a few of them. If we lived in a different universe, weíd ideally have a bipartisan investigation by Congress that was honest and serious and was able to be finished or at least to reach decent conclusions before the Electoral College votes on December 19.

But that will not happen. Republicans will make the Democrats do all the lifting here and then will cry that theyíre being partisan and itís just sour grapes. (Republican Senator John Cornyn tweeted, All this 'news' of Russian hacking: it has been going on for years. Serious, but hardly news.") But this is a genuine crisis. The guy who got 2.8 million fewer votes to begin with, and won because he took three states by less than 1 percent may have made it over the finish line, limping as he was, with a push from Vladimir Putin.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:45 PM

50. It's like the crimes Nixon & his pals tried to get away with in the Watergate scandal

However, these criminal activities won't be investigated by an independent commission, because this time, the criminals control both houses of Congress.

K&R, thanks for posting this.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

52. THIS.

Exactly this!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:46 AM

54. Oyyyyy, this rabbit hole goes DEEP!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:09 AM

56. Kick.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:16 PM

57. OMG. Can an investigation be done when Dems have more power later?

There's no statute of limitations on this, I hope, so that an investigation can be done later, when Dems have more power. Although I suspect much of the evidence will disappear. Trump is in the process of purging the intel agencies and placing his mini-dictator in there, to root out those Trump doesn't want in there.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:48 PM

59. This is possibly their weakest defence but will the DP go for their jungular?

Stop hinting that you know more stuff from meetings etc

Just take the plunge and spill the beans.

What could possibly be more important?

You putting your career ahead of your country?

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