Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:48 PM
Tx4obama (29,931 posts)
Damn it !!! Chris Matthews is still using the phrase ''Obama's Executive Order'' - there is NO EO !Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion Is Different From Issuing An Executive Order: http://mediamatters.org/research/201206160002 President Obama did NOT issue an Executive Order. The change in immigration policy was set forth in a memorandum written and signed by Napolitano. I wish the media would do their homework !!!
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Tx4obama | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| Lionessa | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| HereSince1628 | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| Control-Z | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| AnotherMcIntosh | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| Tx4obama | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| Tx4obama | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| Tx4obama | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| zbdent | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| zbdent | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| bigtree | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| Mosaic | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #13 |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:57 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
1. Though I think you and I disagree about whether it should've been an EO,
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we definitely agree that it isn't one.
Chris Matthews is an idiot. All you have to do is watch his promos for his show to know that. "You can't go to China and become Chinese," then he points to the White House like Obama became an American when he wasn't one, and says something like, "American exceptionalism." Yeah, a complete moron, just seems no one pays enough attention to catch most of his careless mistakes and stupidities. |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:04 PM
HereSince1628 (26,736 posts)
2. Picky picky picky picky...
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parsing suggests desperation.
It is unbecoming. |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:38 PM
Control-Z (8,335 posts)
3. Is there a reason you harp on this point? n/t
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:55 PM
AnotherMcIntosh (8,079 posts)
4. Technically, as explained in the Federal Register,
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Executive orders are official documents, numbered consecutively, through which the President of the United States manages the operations of the Federal Government.
The text of Executive orders appears in the daily Federal Register as each Executive order is signed by the President and received by the Office of the Federal Register. The text of Executive orders beginning with Executive Order 7316 of March 13, 1936, also appears in the sequential editions of Title 3 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/about.html The latest executive orders are found here: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2012.html I'm not aware of any good reason why anyone should rely upon Chris Matthews for anything. Or other TV gas bags of any stripe. They have been wrong about a great many things, including calling certain people in positions of authority "liberals" or "progessives" when they are not. I can't see how it makes any difference as to whether he uses the phrase "executive order" consistent with the Federal Register's explanation or not. |
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:11 PM
Tx4obama (29,931 posts)
7. Also ...
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Also when President Obama signs an EO the White House posts them here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:57 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,266 posts)
5. Didn't he say he'd issue an EO? Although he hasn't done it yet? nt
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #5)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:09 PM
Tx4obama (29,931 posts)
6. No. It was just a policy change, not an EO n/t
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:47 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,266 posts)
12. I Googled it. Yes, he issued an EO. LAST year was the discretionary policy change.
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It wasn't an EO for the whole DREAM Act. It's just so the non-residents brought here at age 15 or younger can apply for two year terms to be allowed to stay, then they can re-apply, and re-apply, etc. As long as certain conditions are met, like no felonies, they will be allowed to stay legally, but not a right to citizenship. So it's different from the DREAM Act, but it's part of it.
Obama didn't use the words Executive Order, but all the reports, confirmed by Napolitano, are that's what it is. Snopes.com was one source. |
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:59 PM
Tx4obama (29,931 posts)
14. There was no EO issued. If you have a link to the Federally Registered EO then please post it.
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List of Obama's Executive Orders: 2009 - E.O. 13489 - E.O. 13527 (39 Executive orders issued) - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2009-obama.html 2010 - E.O. 13528 - E.O. 13562 (35 Executive orders issued) - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2010.html 2011 - E.O. 13563 - E.O. 13596 (34 Executive orders issued) - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2011.html 2012 - E.O. 13597 - E.O. 13615 (19 Executive orders issued) - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2012.html p.s. Like I said up in the OP... Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion Is Different From Issuing An Executive Order: http://mediamatters.org/research/201206160002 President Obama did NOT issue an Executive Order. The change in immigration policy was set forth in a memorandum written and signed by Napolitano. |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #14)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:57 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,266 posts)
15. Ouch! You got me there. It's all over the place that he issued an EO! nt
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:35 PM
zbdent (34,592 posts)
8. he's hinting at lusting after Rmoney's crotch ...
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I don't trust this b*stard at all ... even the times he's "seemed" to be on the "left" side ...
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Response to zbdent (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:56 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,266 posts)
9. We've been enlightened because of your well reasoned and well written educated response. nt
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #9)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:41 PM
zbdent (34,592 posts)
16. whatever twangs your throttle, froggy ...
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:59 PM
bigtree (49,361 posts)
10. I don't see the big deal
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He made a presidential order. Who cares what it's called?
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:39 PM
Mosaic (1,347 posts)
11. My advice
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Don't watch msnbc. They are establishment teevee, Cenk Uynger confirmed that, look it up. Just think about how they focus on republican noise as news, there's something fishy about that. Also their morning spin machine is a repugnant moron with a loud mouth and he's on for three hours, then you get another scumbag Todd. Don't watch their crap, it's bones being tossed at Dems and anyone with two brain cells can see that.
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Response to Mosaic (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,266 posts)

